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I decided to help educate the masses once again with ever saucy Shay
We teamed up to answer another of her reader's questions.
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Reader Question - Is Masturbation Sex? 2 Answers
"My friend and I have been fighting recently over our opinions. He was taught that there were 3 types of sex (Anal, Oral and Intercourse.) while I was taught there are 4 (anal, oral, intercourse and masturbation. My question is: Is masturbation a sex, even if it is done alone?"
Exile and I decided to team up once again to answer this question in our own ways (without looking at each other's answers or anything - we're so good ^_~).
Exile said:
"You two have been fighting over this? Don’t you know the saying “don’t be hate’n, be masturbate’n”?
It sounds like you and your friend have quite the complicated conundrum before you, after all you’re try trying to give definition to one of the grayest areas of sexuality. (It sure befuddled Bill Clinton…)
To answer this you have to lay out a definition of sex. Is sex an act of the aforementioned holy trinity (anal, oral, and intercourse) or is it any sexual act performed with a partner?
Let’s face it, if you have the toys and the time you can pull off the act of both anal and/or intercourse without a partner. As for the oral, well, if you’re limber you can pull that off too. Of course, being that these are all being done in a solo fashion, they are all lumped into the category of masturbation, ergo, any of the previously mentioned acts all constitute forms of masturbation.
Masturbation can also be used as a form of foreplay. “putting on a show” for your partner is quite common and often leads to any one of the holy trinity. But keep in mind that while you are only giving your self stimulation you are not having “sex” in the most commonly defined terms. Think of it like phone sex, you may be “getting off with the other person” but they’re not there to lay in the wet spot with you.
But wait, there’s more.
What about mutual masturbation? We know that when Hans Solo is Work’n his own Wookie it’s only his Chewy that get’s all gooey. So what about when you’re doing it for a partner? This is where the definition get’s fuzzy. For example, if you’re by your self you’re masturbating, but if you lend a hand it’s a hand job (or double clicking someone else’s mouse, depending on who we’re talking about). In this case while you are physically masturbating someone else the solo aspect of the act is lost and it is now a sexual act you are performing on someone else.
To make a long story short (too late), the definition of sex is often obscured by our most commonly used colloquialisms. So to answer your question, masturbation (be it by your self or with someone watching) is a sexual act it does not constitute sex. Furthermore, while performing sexual acts on someone else may simulate the actual act of sex, it does not constitute the act of sex it’s self, unless you count hand jobs and the like as sex.
Remember, this all comes down to an argument of semantics, after all, there are some people who don’t count oral as sex (eg: Bill Clinton.). so no more fighting you two, make up and give each other a big hug… just wash your hands first."
My answer is short and sweet - because that's how I am!
Shay says:
It all depends on how you define "sex". It seems to me that your friend is defining it as "sexual intercourse" and you are defining it as "sexual stimulation" and both can be right. Sexual stimulation refers to the genital stimulation (usually with orgasm as the goal) and all four acts (oral, anal, vaginal, and masturbation) do fall into this category. But people usually consider masturbation and sexual intercourse to be mutually exclusive because we tend to think of sex as something two (or more) people do together, rather than something that you (can) do alone. When we talk about sexual intercourse we are usually referring to insertive sexual behavior - like vaginal intercourse, anal sex, and oral sex - where one person's sexual organ(s) are going inside another person's orifice(s).
What do you think? Does masturbation count as sex? Should oral even count? Are Exile and/or I way off?
(click here to leave comments on Shay's post)
Exile
Original_exile@hotmail.com
I decided to help educate the masses once again with ever saucy Shay
We teamed up to answer another of her reader's questions.
Click here to visit her blog (NSFW)
Click here to go directly to the post (STILL NSFW)
Scroll down if you wanna see it "safe for work" style, cut and pasted from the best (i can't believe my blog is safe for anything)
Reader Question - Is Masturbation Sex? 2 Answers
"My friend and I have been fighting recently over our opinions. He was taught that there were 3 types of sex (Anal, Oral and Intercourse.) while I was taught there are 4 (anal, oral, intercourse and masturbation. My question is: Is masturbation a sex, even if it is done alone?"
Exile and I decided to team up once again to answer this question in our own ways (without looking at each other's answers or anything - we're so good ^_~).
Exile said:
"You two have been fighting over this? Don’t you know the saying “don’t be hate’n, be masturbate’n”?
It sounds like you and your friend have quite the complicated conundrum before you, after all you’re try trying to give definition to one of the grayest areas of sexuality. (It sure befuddled Bill Clinton…)
To answer this you have to lay out a definition of sex. Is sex an act of the aforementioned holy trinity (anal, oral, and intercourse) or is it any sexual act performed with a partner?
Let’s face it, if you have the toys and the time you can pull off the act of both anal and/or intercourse without a partner. As for the oral, well, if you’re limber you can pull that off too. Of course, being that these are all being done in a solo fashion, they are all lumped into the category of masturbation, ergo, any of the previously mentioned acts all constitute forms of masturbation.
Masturbation can also be used as a form of foreplay. “putting on a show” for your partner is quite common and often leads to any one of the holy trinity. But keep in mind that while you are only giving your self stimulation you are not having “sex” in the most commonly defined terms. Think of it like phone sex, you may be “getting off with the other person” but they’re not there to lay in the wet spot with you.
But wait, there’s more.
What about mutual masturbation? We know that when Hans Solo is Work’n his own Wookie it’s only his Chewy that get’s all gooey. So what about when you’re doing it for a partner? This is where the definition get’s fuzzy. For example, if you’re by your self you’re masturbating, but if you lend a hand it’s a hand job (or double clicking someone else’s mouse, depending on who we’re talking about). In this case while you are physically masturbating someone else the solo aspect of the act is lost and it is now a sexual act you are performing on someone else.
To make a long story short (too late), the definition of sex is often obscured by our most commonly used colloquialisms. So to answer your question, masturbation (be it by your self or with someone watching) is a sexual act it does not constitute sex. Furthermore, while performing sexual acts on someone else may simulate the actual act of sex, it does not constitute the act of sex it’s self, unless you count hand jobs and the like as sex.
Remember, this all comes down to an argument of semantics, after all, there are some people who don’t count oral as sex (eg: Bill Clinton.). so no more fighting you two, make up and give each other a big hug… just wash your hands first."
My answer is short and sweet - because that's how I am!
Shay says:
It all depends on how you define "sex". It seems to me that your friend is defining it as "sexual intercourse" and you are defining it as "sexual stimulation" and both can be right. Sexual stimulation refers to the genital stimulation (usually with orgasm as the goal) and all four acts (oral, anal, vaginal, and masturbation) do fall into this category. But people usually consider masturbation and sexual intercourse to be mutually exclusive because we tend to think of sex as something two (or more) people do together, rather than something that you (can) do alone. When we talk about sexual intercourse we are usually referring to insertive sexual behavior - like vaginal intercourse, anal sex, and oral sex - where one person's sexual organ(s) are going inside another person's orifice(s).
What do you think? Does masturbation count as sex? Should oral even count? Are Exile and/or I way off?
(click here to leave comments on Shay's post)
Exile
Original_exile@hotmail.com
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5 Comments:
I dont think masturbation counts as sex, but I think you guys made a few good points though.
By SaM-GiRL, at Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:03:00 AM
Masterbation is touching ones self, and while its sexual and pleasurable I wouldnt consider it sex...or else I woulda been a slut years ago!
Mutual masterbation is a form of sex because it involves another person.
Oral sex is a type of sex as well.
The way I look at it is would I get upset if I caught my partner touching themselves...no I would join in;P
Would I get upset if I caught my partner touching another person in a sexual way such as mutual masterbation of oral sex....uh HELL YEAH!
Just my thoughts LOL;P
By Anonymous, at Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:20:00 AM
I think sex is too vague of a term to define. Masturbation is sexual expression so could be considered sex. Then again, there are some that believe only penetration is sex. Is it only genital to genital contact? Good convo for debate though. My gender studies prof would have loved this question.
By Randi, at Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:54:00 AM
Just thought I'd weigh in with the lesbian point of view... There are plenty of things we lesbians do that have nothing to do with the holy trinity but I sure as hell would count it as sex...
By Anonymous, at Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:23:00 PM
samgirl- yeah, definately not sex
hella- join in? now how could a guy be with you and do something without you? hehehe
randi- what can i say, i'm a master-debator
elena- that's why it's ok to be a lesbian, but a sin to be a gay guy
By exile, at Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:25:00 PM
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